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All of last week I had a bit of a snotty nose, but I've been fine. This weekend, Ricky picked me up on Friday evening and we went to his Dad's house. Then all of us went to a restaurant for a meal. Didn't end up leaving the restaurant till about 11. Then his sister and brother and their partners wanted to go to a couple of clubs, so we all went. We got a taxi back around 2am, then sat and chatted till around 4. Overall I had a really good night, and managed to have a lay-in to catch up on sleep. He dropped me off at home at 1pm on saturday, and I did 4 hours of revision. Then Ricky came over for a couple of hours in the evening to watch films with me and Dad. On Sunday I went shopping with two of my friends for a few hours, but I was in a rush and forgot to grab a coat - so was therefore freezing the whole day. Started to feel abit iffy last night, and have woken up this morning with a flare up. So I'm feeling crappy that the consequences of being happy and having a good time leads to this, but worst of all was my dad's reaction. I'd been up in the night and came to tell mum I wasn't feeling very well, and then came into her room again when it was time to get up. She told me to stay home so I went back to bed. Dad then storms in the room. Shouts at me saying it's a load of b*****ks, that there is NO WAY I have had a flareup over night, and that it doesn't just happen like that. Also that obviously this is all Ricky and his families fault, and that I will never go out or do anything again. He also says he has no sympathy for me (which I don't want anyway) and that I'm just like the patients that walk into his surgery everyday using their illnesses as an excuse to stay of school or work and do nothing. I admit it is my fault that I over did it this weekend, but I didn't want to let people down. I do often forget what can happen, I try to just do what I want to do but it always backfires. It is my fault, but I have only been living with RA for 2 years, and it feels like I will never be able to just let go, and that really upsets me. Mum has been so understanding as always, and defended me when Dad was saying those things. She doesn't want me to stop seeing Ricky because she knows how happy he makes me, so she wants to have a nice chat with him, and let him know everything there is to know, because if he's taking me on then he's also taking the RA on. I know this is the case, but I'm scared because I'm not sure myself that I'd want to do that if I was him. I suppose it will test how much he really likes me. I don't know what to do. I feel so low and it scares me of the things I am capable of when I get like this. I've done stupid things in the past when things like this happen, so I really don't understand how Dad can push things like he does when he knows what I've done before. He doesn't understand at all. It feels like the past 2 years of explaining and getting through things has been a waste of time because he just doesn't get it anyway. How is anyone ever going to understand me if my own Dad can't. I don't see the point in anything in life if I can't be happy or do things that are fun. I need help
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Hi Hannah I am glad you had a great night out the trouble is you (I did) forget you have RA you feel good at the time but boy do you pay for it after your mum seems to understand but I think your dad is scared for you he seems to hide his true feelings I know he sees people at work who put on illness and deep down he knows you are not putting it on (this is his way of copeing) I hope you know what I am trying to say as for your boyfriend I think he needs to know and I think he likes you so do not worry about him finishing with you he seems a really nice boy I know I have not said a lot but hope some of it helps take care Hannah I will miss you when I go dont over do things again just a bit at a time (I sound like a mother now!!) Mary L
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Oh Hannah, how we all know exactly what you are going through! We are mostly older and wiser (I said mostly!) and we know full well what happens after we've had a good weekend But we still go ahead and enjoy ourselves and then suffer the consequences. It must be dreadful for you, you have your whole life ahead of you and you don't want to be turning down invitations and staying in when others are burning the candle at both ends with no ill effects. In the last few years all these new drugs have become available for RA, such as the anti-tnfs, and who knows what may happen in the next few years so there is hope, a lot of research is going on into RA at the moment. Did you read Alice Peterson's book, Another Alice? If you like I could send you my copy, just ask NRAS for my e-mail address and let me know your address and I'll post it to you.
As for your Dad, remember he does love you and just be thankful you are not his patient! It sounds as if your Mum knows all about RA so should be able to talk some sense into him. It's a good idea for you and your Mum to explain to Ricky about your illness, it's best that he understands from the start rather than think you are just making excuses if you say you can't go somewhere. I'm glad you had a lovely weekend and don't worry, there will be lots more to come! Hope your flare settles down soon, get lots of rest today.
Love and hugs, Doreen xx
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Thankyou both so much for your replies. Doreen I am not too sure how to ask for your e-mail, mine is hannahlansley94@hotmail.co.uk, so could you e-mail me so I can reply with my address? I would really appreciate that. x
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Ok Hannah I'll do that.
Doreen xx
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" I hate this b***** disease!!!! ".......... Join the club! A friend is someone who knows all about you but loves you anyway!
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Oh darling - I'm so sorry you are having a massive flare.
Don't punish yourself for pushing things over the weekend - we've ALL done it and some of us older idiots have worn out the t-shirt and the hat!! It takes a long time to get adjusted as to what you can and can't manage. I think your Mum is right in her decision to have a chat with Ricky - maybe you could both talk to him and then if he has any questions you can answer them.
As for your Dad - my guess is that he is gutted you have this dreadful disease and shouting is one of the ways he copes with it. He must also be feeling pretty stressed and worried about his Dad still, and his own health problems. I KNOW he shouldn't take it out on you, but sometimes these things happen. Doesn't make it any better though when you are on the receiving end.
Take care, Hannah, and let us know how you are. Lots of love Jeanxxxx
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Oh Hannah, I can just imagine the frustration and anger you must be feeling.
When you are young, life is for living and for almost all young people, their bodies allow them to do so. Not so for you and that is a huge obstacle to get your head around. I found getting the balance right one of the hardest parts of living with RA but I did in the end and I'm sure you will find a balance that works for you too. I think it's a good thing that your mum has a word with your lovely man. It's very important that he understands your limitations and the consequences for you of overdoing it. Together, I think you can come up with ways of enjoying your time together that fits in with how you are feeling at the time ... more active activities when you're feeling good; movies and a quiet night in when you're poorly.
As for dad, maybe mum can have a word with him too. I should imagine it's very difficult for him to see his baby girl suffering like this and perhaps he is angry with you for, in his mind, making it worse for yourself but if you and he (and mum) can talk it through hopefully he can appreciate the challenges you are facing.
Please don't be despondent about your future. You are such a bright young soul and believe me, all things will pass. There WILL be good days in this RA!!!
x x Joanna
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Hi Hannah,
I know from reading some of your other posts you seem a really switched on kinda gal but even so - this sounds so hard to deal with. Your dad's reaction was harsh. I think others are right though, it's likely your dad does care but he certainly seems to have a rather dubious way of showing it, ....like others have said he may be worried about the future, BUT maybe a little of his reaction is also about him dealing with his little girl growing up - something some dads find very difficult to deal with sometimes... He needs to sort his head out, but your Mum sounds like she has the situation well sussed xx We all have days when we know we've done too much but rest assured life can be balanced without sacrificing all the fun things, - its not nice though when a flare makes you feel as if being punished for having fun - i think we can all empathise xxxxx Hope your flare goes away very soon and you are able to have a lovely weekend ~ it's Mothers Day this weekend and your Mum sounds FAB!
Take care love Liz xxxxx
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Join the club Hannah (Oh you have! lol)
Lots of the disease and living with it is about balancing activity and rest. traffic light systems help me- do you want me to dig up the post on that?
In the meantime, www.butyoudontlooksick.com is a good place to look, try the "spoon theory" and print it off for grumpy GP dad too....
I hate being told that I cant do what I want to do. Not so long ago I had a dream about going out with my other half, a meal, some drinks, going onto clubbing and then for a swim the following day and I was well enough to do it! What a lovely dream.... anyway! it hit me hard at the time that this is a life I havent been able to have since my late teens.
crappy RA, we should write and complain!
Jenni xhow to be a velvet bulldoser
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Dear Hannah, First of all I`m really pleased you had such a good time when you went out - morale-wise it`s important to feel "normal" every now and again. Sadly, there is nearly always a price to pay - but you know, I sometimes feel it is worth it, just for the pleasure you get. And you are so young - you deserve to have a good time, and I hope you have many more. Your mum sounds like she really understands, and I`m sure Ricky will not allow the RA to make any difference to how he sees you. As for dad, well, fathers can sometimes be like that towards daughters - but although his words were harsh, as others have said I think he struggles to accept that you have a health problem, and he lashes out. Take care, & hope you feel better soon, Kathleen x
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Thanks for your comment earlier, I hope you feel better soon. It is hard when you have a flare up and your dad should be more sympathetic. Flare ups happen so quickly and are so painful, you can look so good on the outside but boy you don't on the inside. I have not had any in a long time now, I put it down to the mangoteen juice I take. Try to pace yourself better; if you have a busy day try to relax the next day. Most of all keep warm in this weather keep your back covered. I wear waistcoats all the time on top of jumpers etc. Take care x
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Sounds like you had a good weekend Hannah, but are paying the price for overdoing it. I used to do the same; go out to discos at weekends and then end up crawling upstairs on my hands and knees because it was too painful to walk. It then used to take me 2-3 days to get over it, but I wouldn't call it a flare and it didn't stop me going out either. Enjoy yourself! Carol
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Dear Hannah,
Be as sensible and careful as you like but a 'flare' will come when it comes, I don't believe that it is possible to turn them back or to avoid them no matter how sensible we are. It is just one of these nasties in life that we learn to cope with in time. The thing is that it is 'us' who has to cope and deal with them and , with luck, those who don't experience them learn to support and believe that they exist. Saying that, as a parent, I know how hard it is to see your child unwell and it is natural to try and deny that is something that you cannot change. In your dad's position it must feel even more difficult as he can help others yet not his own child.
At your age, we partied and went out without coats and so on and it was just darned bad luck that you have ended up unwell.
Get better soon, and enjoy your friendship with Ricky.. The chat with mum and Ricky may feel uncomfortable for you both but I am sure that it will be fine. I am sure that if you are uncomfortable with it you can ask your mum not to make it formal but just a chat between you three.
Love Eleanor x
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Hannah-L wrote: I don't see the point in anything in life if I can't be happy or do things that are fun. Exactly! I think you've just answered your own questions! Get out and enjoy yourself. Life is far too short! A friend is someone who knows all about you but loves you anyway!
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Hannah, I am so glad that you had a great weekend. It is horrid that we have to 'pay' for it afterwards. One of the hardest things is learning to pace yourself. It is equally important that you still go out and have an active social life. I am sorry your dad reacted so negatively. Maybe he is having a difficult time at work and is projecting his frustration. Maybe he can't handle the fact you are sick and is struggling with his feelings? This doesn't make his behaviour right, it is great that your mom is so understanding. I think your dad would be horrified if he thought his behaviour was making you so down and low. I do think that some dads struggle to let their little girls go.
You are a lovely, bright girl, I hope your flare settles soon. Take care
Deb x
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Hi Hannah
I'm always overdoing it and paying afterwards. like you I've had RA for 2 yrs and to be honest, I can't get used to it. I get so angry that it stops me from doing what I want. As everyone else says- we need to enjoy ourselves.
As for flares coming on overnight- yes they certainly do!!!!!
Hope you have a good rest and feel better soon
Much love
Maria x
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How are you this morning, Hannah? Sometimes Life will Suck. But you will find 'your' balance between good and bad days. Ricky sounds a real sweety, and you are right, when he knows more about RA, you will get to know how much he cares about YOU. This B****y disease is just a part of the whole YOU. Your Dad over reacts because he is your Dad - did you ever get around to sitting him down and giving him a talking to?
Cyber hugs! Grab what you can of life, and ride the storms.
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hi everyone. I'm feeling worse today  my joints are so swollen and stiff and i can hardly move. Yesterday i started to feel extremely low again so i went to the doctors. He said i have reactive depression that is highlighted when i have flares and is referring me to a clinical physcologist. As for my dad, he came in from work and i asked him how his day had been, he said it was terrible because he'd been worrying about me all day. His eyes started to fill so i asked him if he'd like a hug and he replied that he didnt deserve one. So i gave him a hug and we had a good cry and a chat about everything. Thankyou for all your posts, you are all amazing and i never fail to feel better after chatting to you all. xxx
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Hannah, So sorry to read about the depression but about the not moving- bed rest and the full rotation until it passes if it is not going anywhere fast then ring the rheumatologist team and ask for a depomedrome injection to get things moving again.
your poor Dad, my dad is a bit like this sometimes too.
It brings back a lot of difficult memories for me reading your little posts as I can remember those days so well. Once when I couldnt move (I was about 20 then) I had been out and doing university stuff etc and got really bad with the RA and they were busy telling me off in someways and I shouted "I AM NOT OLD OR 45 or SOMETHING!!!"
makes me smile now because at 34 now I realise 45 isnt old at all!
funny how things change- I was such a silly girl.
never mind.
Hope today is MUCH better Han.
god bless
Jenni xhow to be a velvet bulldoser
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